[POLITICS]: The Border Patrol's Recruiting Crisis

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02/11/2019 at 10:00 • Filed to: None

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How many Border Patrol agents could the government hire, and how much more could the government pa y the existing agents, with $5.7 billion?


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Kinja'd!!! Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/11/2019 at 10:21

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And how many more people could be spending time processing visa applications? For people that come to work here, people with a unique skill not easily available to American corporations that want to make AMERICAN products in AMERICA. My girlfriend works for a large tier 1 supplier and they have to wait upwards of something like 9 months to get a VISA application through. I bet this is stifling innovation, as all these jobs are for cutting edge engineering, where they have a limited talent pool a cross the globe. On top of that this administration is flooding said tier 1 supplier with verification requests from people they already have working for them on a visa. Our government is, to some extent,  stifling American innovation at this American corporation and I don’t doubt it’s going on at countless other corporations. “they’re not sending their best, believe me” -Cheeto, yeah, but we sure are trying to get the best! We just can’t!

I can only imagine how hard it is when you don’t have the weight of a corporation like that behind you and you are trying to complete this immigration process on your own (in its many ways/shapes/forms, be it asylum , career, or otherwise motivated ) . I bet that’s a big reason we have people overstaying their visas, because the process is so damn long that they don’t have a choice, 21 Savage was a recent popular case of this, and the funny thing is, that’s only one number off from a catch 22.

I think we should be putting just as much money towards stopping the flow of drugs, guns and illegal immigrants as we are toward streamlining the process for LEGAL immigration, because that the latter (illegal immigration) is at least to some extent directly related to how hard it is to legally immigrate.


Kinja'd!!! facw > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/11/2019 at 10:25

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Not very many new hires apparently:

Ten months into the contract, the consulting firm, Accenture, had only “processed two accepted job offers,” but was paid $13.6 million in start-up costs and other expenses, the Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General found.

In November 2017, CBP awarded Accenture a $297 million contract to help meet the hiring demands of an executive order on border security that President Donald Trump signed during his first week in office. The President’s directive called on CBP to “take all appropriate action to hire 5,000 additional Border Patrol agents.”

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/10/politics/cpb-hiring-accenture-contract-inspector-general/index.html


Kinja'd!!! Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs
02/11/2019 at 10:28

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Gotta make America safer ! But “yes” to everything you’ve said here.

What does it mean to be a Tier 1 supplier?


Kinja'd!!! Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > facw
02/11/2019 at 10:35

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Draining the swamp.


Kinja'd!!! Tekamul > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/11/2019 at 10:38

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You want safer? Bring in more immigrants

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Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/11/2019 at 10:40

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And rememeber, when the Border Patrol hires, they’re not hiring the  best.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/525327/


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/11/2019 at 10:41

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“ Gotta make America safer ! But “yes” to everything you’ve said here.”

*doesn’t apply to Americans slaughtering other Americans*


Kinja'd!!! BigBlock440 > Tekamul
02/11/2019 at 10:48

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Well, yes, you would expect to see a higher number of occurrences from the group that has the higher number of members...


Kinja'd!!! JustAnotherG6 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/11/2019 at 10:54

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Tier 1 supplier = they supply parts directly to a Mfg. company. Think Ford, GM, FCA and so on and so on...


Kinja'd!!! Tekamul > BigBlock440
02/11/2019 at 10:55

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.... per 100,000. ...


Kinja'd!!! Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Tekamul
02/11/2019 at 10:56

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Or deport the native-born.


Kinja'd!!! Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > JustAnotherG6
02/11/2019 at 10:58

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So that puts them further down, or further up, a supply chain?


Kinja'd!!! Tekamul > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/11/2019 at 10:58

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I’ve got a list....


Kinja'd!!! Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/11/2019 at 11:06

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In the automotive world key suppliers to the automotive giants are often known as tier 1 suppliers.


Kinja'd!!! Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/11/2019 at 11:07

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Well, the auto manufacturer is further down the supply chain than a supplier to them . Example: Seating plant (tier 1 supplier) -> Auto Manufacturer -> Dealer -> Customer.


Kinja'd!!! Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > DipodomysDeserti
02/11/2019 at 11:09

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So you might say, to borrow a quote from cheeto-man,  they aren’t “sending their best”? Haha.


Kinja'd!!! nermal > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/11/2019 at 11:21

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The struggle to recruit and retain Border Patrol agents predates the Trump administration. The number of agents peaked at 21,444 in fiscal year 2011, and since then has mostly trended downward.

Thanks Obama!

The agency made some strides in the past year. Border Patrol counted 19,544 agents in mid-January, a hard-won 107-agent increase over the same number in fiscal year 2017.

“For the first time in many, many, many years, we are hiring at a rate that outpaces the rate at which we are losing,”

Good job Trump!

Realistically it’s not a bad job as long as you can accept getting hosed out of overtime, and dealing with shitty working conditions in remote areas while potentially getting rocks thrown at you. You’d be better served getting a “regular” police job if law enforcement is  your thing . Alternatively, a n oilfield job would pay twice as much with a different but comparable amount of personal safety concerns.

Job posting for reference: https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=fe9396745f80203a&tk=1d3el89n05t9n803&from=serp&vjs=3


Kinja'd!!! Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > nermal
02/11/2019 at 12:02

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That’s not horrible pay. Plus benefits. But I suggest that money spent paying Border Patrol agents more would be money well spent.

Not sure about the roughneck job paying “twice as much.” You may know more about this than I do, in fact it’s probable that you do, but I am skeptical of that claim.

as long as you can accept getting hosed out of overtime, and dealing with shitty working conditions in remote areas while potentially getting rocks thrown at you

That’s a lot to deal with.


Kinja'd!!! JustAnotherG6 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/11/2019 at 16:39

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Further up and it applies to any Mfg. company, not just automotive . The company I work for is a t i e r 1 supplier to Caterpillar & Bobcat but a tier 2 supplier to Polaris (we supply material to their t ier 1).